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half-finished Enna
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2003/03/07 06:03:27 PST by astravaii [0/21]
Edited at 2003/03/27 03:08:57 PST
Awards: 9 from Dev

i actually started this a long time ago...

it's a (very) slight variation on another person's design -- can't remember who. it's severely unfinished, as you can certainly see. you can tell i hadn't decided on some things yet. also, i had darkened the hair... it was lighter originally (see that color in the palette under the green?).


well, that's nearly finished, aside from a few problems.
since i had so little left to do, i thought i should just bite down and do it whether i felt like it or not. (if anyone was wondering what held me up, it was re-drawing that damned coat-tail thing. ^^; grr. the hand wasn't actually so bad.)

now, to take note of a few issues...

changing the shoulder guard just didn't work out, so it's gotta stay. you can't really delete random design elements.
i attempted changing the spikes to gold studs to echo the belt. but, like i said, it just didn't work. the spikes seem to counterbalance the hair ornament, but i'm not quite sure... i think it had created a triangle with the braid tie, too. hmm.

i had originally extended the arm to counterbalance the braid swinging out in back. cutting it off threw the composition's balance to hell. i thought the bow might be enough to compensate, but it isn't quite in the right space. i added some decoration to the quiver in an attempt to re-balance it.

now, i'm going to have to step back and let this sit on the shelf for a while.

2003/03/07 11:45:57 PST by Aetrus [0/15]

wow i like that pic much better than the concept we chose! I can offer no suggestions other than to go with what you like for now.

This is much more like what I pictured Enna would look like.

2003/03/07 13:55:00 PST by mystik3eb [0/43]
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...can I say "Where were you a few months ago?" Holy cow, that's an amazing picture...in my opinion, it's the best I've seen (nothing against your nataku, this just seems more...Enna to me).

I dunno, it's actually not too far off from what we have now. We were just looking for the same general idea, but with the same look as our other characters...and this does it in my opinion.

So, as to your question: FINISH IT!! =)

I dunno, should we take this one? Ah sorry, this is so awesome, I'm so excited, lol.

2003/03/07 16:11:54 PST by Temporal [manager]
Edited at 2003/03/07 20:46:16 PST
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Holy crap!

Please finish it!

Technically, Nataku's Enna is not final-final, since we needed to do a stylistic redesign to make it fit with the other characters. Personally, I love Nataku's work, but I think this piece just... better captures Enna. She's mean, and she's rogue...

Anyway, let's get the finished version first, then we'll see what we can do with it.

I hope you stick around and do more artwork! Great stuff!

EDIT: I believe the original image you based yours on was this one by Akio.

2003/03/07 18:33:58 PST by astravaii [0/21]

...i didn't know i'd get such a positive response...
i guess i'll finish it as soon as i can, then. but i'm struggling with a few parts. might take a while.

Akio... yeah, that's the one. ^^ i really liked that design.

i started on my version about a year ago. but between computer trouble and my own projects i kind of forgot about it. when i wandered back here the site had changed and i couldn't find the source. ^^;

well now, i can give proper credit.

2003/03/07 22:19:42 PST by 3Der [0/7]

What can I say except that its awesome...o_0

2003/03/08 01:00:58 PST by Dev [manager]
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Astra, you seem to be oblivious to the current lack of active illustrators in the project. Reading the comments you have so far, I'm sure you don't need me to tell you we sincerely appreciate any progress you can bring to our concept artwork. ;D

As for this particular piece...

I also like it a lot. For a bit of direction: Her boot on the right is the better fit, I think... the other looks to modern (I would be referring to Enna's left shoe). And her hair is good as you have it. And do my eyes deceive me, or are her eyes indeed green? That's right on, too.

The only thing I might suggest changing is a few design elements I really liked from (and why I went with) Nataku's design. Namely, her hairstyle and demeanor. The implied action is good, but for some reason I see her smirking more than grimacing. That's just me, though, this works too!

My two cents. Good work!

2003/03/08 01:13:07 PST by Temporal [manager]
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I disagree with the last couple points Dev makes... in particular, I like this Enna's expression a lot better. She's a terrorist. She's supposed to be mean and cold. Of course, over the course of the game, that will change, but I have to say that the smile she has in Nataku's version doesn't seem to fit her personality at all... not the way I imagine her.

2003/03/08 07:26:03 PST by Morpheus [0/5]

That is true, by the way whoa nice illustration, she is cold, and at one point willing to kill anything to get her point across. So that expression seems to be a better fit for her.

2003/03/08 09:50:37 PST by Aetrus [0/15]

In the beginning of the game Enna is a person desperate to stymie Pylos in any way posible and thus get back at them for the hit on her village resulting in the death of loved ones. We should be sure to keep that desperation present in illustrations because they represent an Enna without Syne's influence, and also her attitudes and perspectives at the beginning. Yes, we will be developing her character and finding her true self, but (I doubt she really is that cold and that desperate. She is merely acting as curcumstances, and needs define.) keep her desperate looking. We don't want to tip our hand to the player as to where we are going with her character too much. (assuming the player is not in on the project and all that...)

2003/03/08 14:59:09 PST by mystik3eb [0/43]
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I still think this version is absolutely perfect, bar none =). Please check out doing some of the other characters!

2003/03/09 14:17:45 PST by astravaii [0/21]

well... i wouldn't presume myself to be so rare or valuable. a design that's unusable is unusable, regardless. ...i wasn't to confident about the quality of the image anyway, but that might be my own pickiness.

it didn't occur to me to put a smirk on her face... i think this is the reason:

the pose is clearly aggressive and a smirk connected to it has the tone of pleasure or superiority in regard to the aggression.

my impression was not that she *enjoyed* killing but that she had become hardened to it, either because she felt it was necessary or because she felt it was just. i can see, perhaps, the feeling of superiority, though.

mainly, a smirk conveys emotion (even if you don't agree on what sort), while this expression... doesn't. not necessarily. coldness and hardness; it's a battle mask.

egh... i'm only half making sense, i guess.

anyway, it's impossible to convey the full range of a character in one image. under the circumstances, i think the expression i chose is the more fitting one. ...she certainly doesn't need to be drawn this way all the time. ^^

people change but moments in their hisory do not.

...i do agree about the boots. those are the ones i had drawn originally.
and the hairstyle is readily changeable, i suppose. i can just get rid of the braid and pin it up in back. ...but i'm not sure how that would affect the balance of the image. i'll try it.

2003/03/09 15:05:59 PST by Temporal [manager]
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Don't worry, you're making sense. We're all thinking in terms of what Enna's "official" design should look like, which should, to some extent, represent her character in general, not any specific situation. I actually think you're design does that pretty well.

And stop pretending your work isn't that great, because it is! :P

2003/03/09 17:05:41 PST by mystik3eb [0/43]
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I agree with that. I don't like the smirk idea personally.

Now, instead of drooling over the pic, I'm gonna give some suggesitons. First of all, I don't particularly like the spiked arm cover (ala Cloud) on her right shoulder...could you lose it? I don't think Enna's gothic. Second, I like the braid, but I was under the impression she had short hair. Also...yes I DID look (just in comparison to nataku's), and...don't take this the wrong way, but I think she should probably be a little more busty. Just my opinion...I just see her that way. Please don't dig too deep into this, it's not like that o_O. I still love this pic to pieces.

2003/03/10 14:38:43 PST by astravaii [0/21]

busty? ha. ^^ i'm going to have to decline that. i think her bust line is adequate.

...does anyone else have a problem with the shoulder pad? hm. actually, that armlet bothered me more...

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