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[art] Delloran/Antarean concept
2005/06/03 14:57:19 PDT by mystik3eb [0/43]
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Maybe Rushs arms...o_O

I always thought Antareans were only a bit shorter than the average human.

Thinking of the Antareans and how smart, yet small they are reminds me of the goblins in Gringotts Bank in Harry Potter. They still look rather intimidating and know-it-all, despite their size.

2005/06/03 17:32:10 PDT by Dev [manager]
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For me, the intimidation factor for Antareans should be their numbers. Has anyone seen "Pitch Black"? I first saw it a number of months ago, and felt intellectually violated since their aliens reminded me a lot of Antareans (except larger and uglier). Though, a lone Antarean soldier is probably rather fearsome anyway, with lots of spikey natural weapons and thick armor. I don't think Delloran should look like a soldier; in fact, there are plot reasons why he should appear to be a very unique Antarean with trademark features. Perhaps he developed in a wonky sort of way, having grown up outside of the hive-like structure of his home peaks.

Quote from Temporal:

Is he an infant?

He's 12. I guess we're debating the application of the word "cradle". :P I just meant that Ko could be easily carried by one of the stronger PCs like Cade or Rush. And I do think that Ko would be a little larger than Dell.

2005/06/03 22:04:44 PDT by Riven [0/10]

Now, Halo fans, I know the Covenant are made of different races, but I think we could use the same type of caste system. Rulers->Fighters->Lower Fighters->Working class->Peons. And right now, I REALLY wish I could draw because I had a good pic in mind. As for how they may look...

Rulers-Sort of wise (duh) and maybe some sort of...antenna horn thingy...that looks like a long ancient Chinese mustache or something to that effect. (I'd draw it, but I can't.)

Fighters-Bigger than the others, more muscular and stereotype bad dudes.

Lower Fighters-A mix between Fighters and Working class I suppose.

Working class-A bit more humanoid than else I suppose, fairly gangly, but not too weak in appearance.

Peons-Now, no one kill me for this, but a little more lizardy, sort of like an unevolved kind. That's why they're peons. Haven't evolved.

Those are just my thoughts, if anyone wants to draw what they think I mean, feel free to. However, I'll say again, I have NO artistic ability.

2005/06/03 23:00:34 PDT by Temporal [manager]
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What's the fun of copying someone else's system? :P

Does the system have to be so linear? Can't there be castes that are different but do not outrank each other?

2005/06/05 14:03:35 PDT by Stix [0/49]
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I'm new, and my name's Stix. I've got tons... I mean literally, around 20-40 songs that I made with AnvilStudios that I am not doing ANYthing with right now.. so if anyone is interested, I ...don't know how to post music, but I can try to email it to the whomever wants to look at them.

I'm very interested in drawing some Antareans for you. Delloran, too. I've only just joined today, and I'll take a look around. This sounds like a wonderful enterprise!

2005/06/05 15:08:14 PDT by Dev [manager]
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(Hi Stix, nice to meet ya. This is off topic, but your drawings or music can go to the illustration or music section, by clicking on the "Submit File" button in the top right. It's great that you have a lot of music you're considering submitting, but keep in mind our submission guidelines, and also that media submitted without anything to do with the game probably won't earn any points (so at least find a spot in the story where it might fit).)

I agree with Temp; I don't think the Antareans would order themselves so strictly in that manner. In fact, except for their genetically-determined caste, Antareans aren't likely to order themselves in much of any manner (remember: this is a society of wind affinitives). The ruling caste should obviously hold power over the others, probably including leading armies and coordinating building projects and things like that. Kydran would be a member of the ruling caste.

Also, when I talk about Antarean society as hive-like, I certainly don't envision some sort of Borg-like collective mind driving their actions. Antareans respect individual differences just as much as other races (or perhaps moreso), and it's probably possible that a renowned member of the worker caste would be more respected than an unaccomplished soldier, and vice versa.

2005/06/05 15:53:37 PDT by Temporal [manager]
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That is to say, as wind affinitives, Antareans are fairly "up in the air", so to speak. They aren't very organized. They probably tend to just run around doing whatever looks like it needs to be done a lot. This isn't very efficient, but since there are so many of them, they end up getting important stuff done somehow.

2005/06/06 19:09:53 PDT by Stix [0/49]
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Last off-topic post here: I uploaded a song. I will henceforth post many dragons that I have drawn.

2005/06/14 17:19:57 PDT by Stix [0/49]
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One question: Do Antareans really have to be four-legged? Can't they walk on two legs, like, say, "Drakyr" from Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits? But not necessarily that human looking...

2005/06/16 10:21:50 PDT by Aetrus [0/15]

I liked Akio's drawings the best. The center one with the PPV ad was hilarious. I picture Dell walking on two legs looking very lizard/dragon like, but being at most 4-5 feet tall, but solid and somewhat squat in the way he sits. I picture Kydran being a bit smaller, and darker looking then Dell. Shifty eyes, and all.

just my thoughts

2005/06/16 14:27:04 PDT by Temporal [manager]
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Quote from Stix:

One question: Do Antareans really have to be four-legged? Can't they walk on two legs, like, say, "Drakyr" from Arc the Lad: Twilight of the Spirits? But not necessarily that human looking...

I guess always thought of them as being able to do either. Like, they might use four legs while running around, but they can very well stand upright when they need to manipulate things with their hands or move slowly.

2005/06/16 17:36:05 PDT by Dev [manager]
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Here it is: the Delloran concept rant that I've put off for too long. It doesn't really directly address the two vs four legs issue, and like Temporal, I'd probably be fine seeing either (or both). But I've had (let's see...) about a year to reformulate exactly what Delloran specifically is like as a character, and here's what I've come up with.

Delloran is an animal, and while humans and the other races are technically animals as well, we don't tend to think of them that way. Even Antareans, despite their exotic social structures, appear to us as a fully sentient race--in other words, not beasts of nature. Delloran is different, though. He's grown up by himself, living a lazy life in the provincial grasslands. Think about what would happen to a human if he grew up in those circumstances. Would he speak normally? Would he have the sorts of manners a typical person might have? Would he be good with math and science? No, and neither should Dell.

In terms of character design, we should not be afraid to portray Delloran as a primitive being. I think the tendency in many stories that involve animal characters (be they "normal" animals or animal-humanoid hybrids) is to anthropomorphize them to the point where it wouldn't matter that they're an animal; you could tell the same story with a human. I don't want to do that with Dell. His natural wisdom and insight that he brings to the story (especially to Rheya) will be all the more surprising.

Those're my ideas anyway. :P

2005/06/17 08:51:12 PDT by Stix [0/49]
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I'm also working on dragon stuff... the only question I have wtih Delloran is this: Is the "hair" color essentially his 'scale color'?? The color of his body, anyway.

2005/06/17 13:40:00 PDT by Captain Vimes [0/13]

We'll have to formulate some reason he's not completely feral. I'm thinking that the cave he grew up in would have to have either a plethora of books (either has a storage area, or as the cellars of some decrepit library) or some other reason that he's not, you know, a beast of the field.

2005/06/17 14:04:12 PDT by Stix [0/49]
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Well, since Cade and Syne end up Dell's cave, there is some small mention of there being weapons there or weapon upgrades that they can use. If he has random weapons laying around in there, then maybe Delloran's got other things in there, too.

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