[00:19:19] mystik3eb: The force is strong with this one
[00:20:28] Temporal: are there any other feature requests you want to remind me of now while I'm still editing things?
[00:20:39] Kass: ... um.
[00:20:44] mystik3eb: Need to specify the use of /tell down there?
[00:20:45] Kass thinks fast.
[00:21:14] Temporal: mystik: that's just page content. I can edit it whenever.
[00:21:15] Kass: No... no, I think I'm pretty satisified. :P
[00:21:48] Kass: As far as I'm concerned, this is a thousand times better than the RDI's sitting-in-wait Flash chat.
[00:22:00] Temporal: what's that?
[00:22:10] Kass: A crappy Flash chat. :P
[00:22:15] Temporal: ... ah. :P
[00:22:25] Kass: PHP/mySQL and Flash front end.
[00:22:38] Kass: Dev tried to join and chat in it earlier and it really spazzed for him.
[00:22:44] Kass: Oh wait.
[00:22:47] Kass: ... -_-;
[00:22:51] Kass: You just had to ask about features.
[00:22:53] Kass: But, uh.
[00:22:58] Kass: This isn't necessary... you have eject, yeah?
[00:23:01] Kass: Kick?
[00:23:04] Temporal kicked Kass.
[00:23:04] Kass left.
[00:23:16] mystik3eb: ...is that admin only?
[00:23:20] Temporal: uh huh
[00:23:27] Kass joined.
[00:23:49] Kass: I like how I could see that before I got terminated. :P
[00:23:59] Temporal: :P
[00:24:21] Kass: I was gonna say... a gag feature would be nice... where a mod can make someone shut up for x time, but eject is fine.
[00:24:35] Temporal: the site-wide ban controls apply to chat
[00:24:56] Kass: Is that by IP or username?
[00:25:17] Temporal: if you ban someone from posting they will be unable to speak. If you ban them from viewing the site, they won't be able to reach the chat in the first place.
[00:25:20] Temporal: it's by IP
[00:25:27] Temporal: but you can look up the IP for any user pretty easily
[00:25:52] Temporal: that is to say, people banned from posting will still be able to watch
[00:26:06] Kass: That's fine.
[00:26:13] mystik3eb: No easy command to kick
[00:26:15] mystik3eb: oops
[00:26:23] mystik3eb: kick 'em out AND ban them in one hit?
[00:26:43] Temporal: no... actually, /kick is an ad hoc thing...
[00:26:53] Kass: That's better. I like it that way.
[00:26:57] Temporal: once you set the ban controls for someone, it won't apply to existing connections
[00:27:09] Temporal: you have to /kick them if they're currently in the room
[00:27:15] Temporal: then when they return they'll be gagged
[00:27:37] Kass: ...
[00:27:38] Kass: Wait. -_-
[00:27:47] Kass: Okay. Define "kick".
[00:27:47] Temporal: also, you can set up chat rooms where only certain people (on a whitelist) can speak
[00:28:06] mystik3eb: A swift movement of the leg
[00:28:08] Temporal: "kick" causes the user's connection to be dropped
[00:28:16] Temporal: so they have to reconnect, like you did
[00:28:25] Kass: But I can talk when I get back.
[00:28:30] Temporal: right
[00:28:41] Kass: Okay. Define "ban".
[00:28:49] Temporal: in order to gag you, I would have to first ban you using the side-wide ban controls, then kick you
[00:28:57] Temporal: then when you returned you'd be gagged
[00:29:44] Kass: Site-wide ban controls... but wouldn't that mean I can't see the site?
[00:29:59] mystik3eb: Site or side?
[00:30:12] Temporal: site, sorry
[00:30:18] mystik3eb: Aren't there two types of ban?
[00:30:22] Temporal: there are two types of bans... posting bans and viewing bans
[00:30:40] Temporal: if you're banned from posting, you can still view the site and watch chat, but can't post or speak in chat
[00:30:49] Temporal: if you're banned from viewing, you can't see the site at all
[00:31:23] Temporal: make sense?
[00:31:30] mystik3eb: Does to me
[00:31:55] mystik3eb: Do you have the site-wide ban controls in the chat window for you as an admin?
[00:32:04] Kass: Yeah.
[00:32:06] Kass: I got it.
[00:32:22] Temporal: the site-wide ban controls are available from a link on the sidebar
[00:32:36] Temporal: they aren't chat-specific, so they aren't part of the chat, no
[00:32:43] mystik3eb nods
[00:34:31] Kass: Is the posting ban by IP also?
[00:34:41] Temporal: they're both by IP, yes
[00:34:54] Temporal: banning by user would be useless... people could just register a new user name
[00:35:08] mystik3eb: So are both the username and IP banned
[00:35:09] Kass: Yeah... but what you would suggest for quickly looking up a user's IP? :P
[00:35:20] Kass: Is it listed in the profile?
[00:35:26] Temporal: a user's known IP's are listed in their profile, yes
[00:35:27] Kass: ::doesn't remember::
[00:35:28] Temporal: for admins, of course
[00:35:29] Kass: Ah.
[00:35:31] Kass: All righty then.
[00:35:44] Temporal: mystik: the ban is by IP only, not by user
[00:35:56] mystik3eb: So they could sign in under the same name elsewhere
[00:36:01] Kass gives IoCM her official stamp of approval. ::STAMP::
[00:36:06] Temporal: yes
[00:36:24] mystik3eb: Two stamps in two days
[00:36:26] mystik3eb: We're doing well
[00:36:39] Temporal: but, if the ban applied to username too, they could just sign in under a different name elsewhere
[00:37:44] mystik3eb: Which some people would do
[00:38:21] Temporal: malicious people probably don't care if they have to create a new name
[00:39:00] mystik3eb: At least it would either stop the non-malicious/stupid people
[00:39:11] mystik3eb: [strike]either[/strike]
[00:39:13] mystik3eb: darn
[00:39:49] Temporal: why would we ban someone who isn't malicious?
[00:40:04] Temporal: try [s]
[00:40:16] mystik3eb: What would they do that would get their IP banned if not malicious enough?
[00:40:21] mystik3eb: either
[00:40:36] Temporal: huh?
[00:40:48] Kass: Oh yeah. Was gonna ask earlier.. under what circumstances would you use a viewing ban, Temp? :P
[00:41:34] Temporal: I don't think I'd ever use it, but it seemed like a good idea to have it available.
[00:41:46] Temporal: Maybe for someone trying to hack the site...