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My music for FoI
2002/11/03 09:30:33 PST by XenoMP [0/20]

You can find my songs which I've done for FoI @ [Http://www.mikseri.net/xenophon]

The songs are:
Boss Battle
Silent Woods
Piano Song
Mountain Nimbus
Crossing the Mountain

I was too lazy to upload these all :P

2002/11/03 10:21:57 PST by Temporal [manager]
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Please upload them if you can. I'd like to have as many submissions as possible hosted directly off this site. Then you don't have to worry about hosting them and we don't have to worry about losing them...

2002/11/03 14:59:35 PST by Alex [0/0]

Xeno, are the items on that page that you didn't list in your above post NOT for FoI?

Can I upload those seven MP3's you did list? I mean, I leech stuff for my own project backups anyway.

Temporal, how about writing a feature that makes it simple for admin to change the uploader / "owner" of the file? That way the artists don't have to waste their time on dirty work that grunts like me can do. That'll result in more of FoI's content getting uploaded (convenient and legal) to the server.

BTW, the MIDI -vs- MP3 issue is still in the air. The way I understand it, MIDI is like modifiable source code and MP3 / OGG / etc are like the compiled / rendered versions. Don't we need the MIDI for each music submission, because the rendered version is optional and easily re-generatable?

2002/11/03 15:20:54 PST by Aetrus [0/15]
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It would be good to have the midi simply from a reviewer's standpoint because that is small and can be modified to show suggestions. To get to an MP3 or OOG from there one would have to first convert the MIDI to wav and then encode. Something is always lost in the conversion, and you're stuck with whatever the MIDI itself sounds like rather than depending on the listener's MIDI synthesis capabilities. For some that"s good because most people don't have very good MIDI synth engines on their sound cards, but for me, and for the rest of the MAB, we have very decent MIDI synth so it will sound as good as it ever will for us, so an static file like an MP3 or OGG is just a waste of file space, and bandwidth. So yes, MIDIs are necesary files. If at all possible the submission should include a MIDI with the submission. The mp3 is nice, but the MIDI is a must if possible. Not all of my submissions will use MIDI exclusively, so of course then a MIDI file would be impossible. (ex: I may use midi for percussion, but I may use my keyboard synthesis engine for the strings or whatever. That would be in wav format so I would have to encode anyway.)

Speaking from a reviewer's standpoint I don't want to have to d/l every mp3 or ogg when I could just as easily d/l a MIDI of it. On 56k it takes a few seconds to get a MIDI vs 20+ minutes for the average mp3. My point is in the numbers. :)

2002/11/03 16:51:05 PST by Temporal [manager]
Edited at 2002/11/03 16:53:09 PST
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Hmmm... multiple files attached to one submission... that would take some database changes, but I'll keep it in mind.

As for letting someone other than the author upload submissions... I'm uncomfortable with that idea. It really doesn't seem right. Uploading files is not that difficult. The author has to upload them somewhere, so might as well upload them here. The only thing it would be useful for is populating this site with everything we already have, but I don't know if I like the idea of uploading things done by people who are not around anymore and who never agreed to the legal terms. I think all the important people are still around or can be convinced to come back, so I'd like to try to get them to upload stuff on their own...

2002/11/03 20:15:02 PST by Aetrus [0/15]

a quick and easy way to upload multiple file types would be to include them in a single zip file and upload that. That still leaves everyone d/l both file types, and so having a larger file to d/l, but that would a quick fix until you get something going there Temp. Maybe there should be a note about MIDI files being an important file to include somewhere in the music section. A general FAQ for the music section would be good too. I'll talk to UO about that one and see what can be done.

2002/11/04 02:34:07 PST by XenoMP [0/20]

Yes, the songs which I didn't list are not for FoI. They are for another game project which I'm currently working on.

I will upload the songs later this week.

And what comes to midi's. I think I'll only have midi file for 'Trosene' and 'Wardrums'. The rest are 'tracker' (.it-files) files, and exporting them to midi will not work too well.

2002/11/04 04:09:14 PST by Temporal [manager]
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Xeno, please upload the IT's as zipped IT's. I love mod-like formats. :) But, more importantly, the point is to have the original form of the file up there, whether that's MIDI or IT or whatever. The only reason I didn't make IT (or XM or S3M or MOD) be one of the accepted formats is because typically we can save a lot of space by zipping these types of files (whereas MIDI's are really small anyway).

Actually, I would say that for now, we shouldn't even put up rendered (mp3 or ogg) versions of the music.

2002/12/11 08:51:39 PST by Music Man089 [0/0]

Sorry Temp, but I'm going to put the site with my stuff on here because I have no chance of uploading. I have to wait until I can afford a new processor for my comp. This is why you have been seeing a lot less of the music man.

It's on geocities. If you log in as 'jonroskilly' (password=seifer) it's on the file manager. I don't really care about what happens here so I'll trust you not to delete the music there because I don't really want you to. Some of it isn't for FoI. So basically probably go into the FoI folder. It's all music though. Thanks.

Warmest regards from cold Britain,
Jon Roskilly

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