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[12:54:41] Temporal: whoa
[12:54:45] Dev: Why, Mr. Varda.
[12:54:48] Temporal: you're here!?
[12:54:50] Dev: Funny seeing you here!
[12:56:01] Dev: .... wonder if that orion guy will show up. ::cough::
[12:56:07] Dev: Oh wait, he's banned.
[12:56:19] Temporal: he can come watch
[12:56:28] Dev: I bet that'd be exciting.
[12:56:32] Dev: one sec
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[12:56:50] Temporal went away: Yes, food sounds good.
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[12:58:05] Temporal: I win!
[12:59:03] Temporal: man, I tell you, you don't really understand how much non-ergonomic keyboards suck until you use an ergonomic one for several years then switch back
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[13:00:18] Dev: You only win because my mother had to print something out while I was in the kitchen.
[13:00:51] Temporal: nevertheless
[13:01:55] Temporal: and you returned one second late!
[13:02:04] Temporal: tsk tsk
[13:02:28] Dev: Oooohhhhhh poop on your head!
[13:02:40] Temporal: ......
[13:02:46] Dev: That's right!
[13:03:47] Dev: Well it was nice of Vimes to leave a message like he did.
[13:04:11] Temporal: oh... didn't see that
[13:05:05] Temporal: ok, Sam, here's the thing
[13:05:13] Temporal: I worked pretty hard to build this site
[13:05:22] Temporal: and as yet I've not seen any serious effort out of you in using it
[13:05:53] Dev: Err... what would constitute a "serious effort"?
[13:06:28] Temporal: just sitting around waiting for people to do stuff, then posting replies, is not going to cut it
[13:07:46] Temporal: we need to do work ourselves so that others can join in and help... we need to more actively encourage people... and we need to advertise
[13:07:46] Dev: I've been well aware of that .... but the procrastinating force is strong with this one.
[13:08:09] Temporal: well, yes. I have not felt particularly motivated to do any of these things either.
[13:09:22] Dev: Though for me, part of it is that our focus has shifted to an area that I'm less confident about directing myself.
[13:09:48] Temporal: we don't have to focus on one thing at a time
[13:10:04] Temporal: any work you want to do on the story can and should be simultaneous
[13:10:32] Dev: It is in the current tasks. :P
[13:10:49] Temporal: well, like I said, you can't just sit and expect people to come do it
[13:12:58] Dev: ... is that the point you had to make, or are you working up to something?
[13:13:32] Temporal: um
[13:13:44] Temporal: no, I didn't have anything more specific to say
[13:14:04] Dev: Oookay then.
[13:15:25] Temporal: hopefully by now you know what needs to be done, and can see the difference between that and what is actually being done
[13:15:44] Dev: Kind of the story of the project, isn't it?
[13:16:21] Temporal: well, yes
[13:18:57] Dev: Hmph. Well is that the meeting then? :P
[13:19:24] Temporal: ...
[13:20:25] Dev: ...
[13:20:39] Temporal: well, what do you plan to do now?
[13:21:05] Dev: As in, right now, or now as in the forseeable future?
[13:21:33] Temporal: the latter
[13:24:01] Dev: As always, the main problem I see is a lack of active contributors. So finding a source of new faces would be good.
[13:24:23] Temporal: ok. Any plans for accomplishing that?
[13:24:24] Dev: I should also probaby figure out a way of posting the encounter chart I made... that would help us think about character abilities.
[13:24:53] Dev: Uh. If I had plans, I probably would have carried them out by now.
[13:25:34] Temporal: so essentially you're waiting for me to do something?
[13:26:16] Dev: .... I'm not waiting for anyone to do anything!
[13:26:49] Temporal: well, you know it needs to be done, and you have no plan or intend for doing it
[13:26:52] Temporal: intent*
[13:28:09] Dev: The intent is definitely there ... but maybe we have a different view on what "needs" means.
[13:29:53] Temporal: as in, the project isn't going anywhere otherwise
[13:31:03] Dev: Then yes, these things need doing, but they're lower on my list than some other things that I intend to do outside of the project.
[13:31:38] Temporal: heh
[13:32:10] Temporal: and that's the problem. We both have a lot of more important things to do than this project.
[13:32:40] Temporal: and not a whole lot of desire to work on this
[13:33:38] Dev: Well, speak for yourself. I always have the motivation to work on the project. My problem, as I said, is just that I don't have a clear procedure in mind to get specific things done.
[13:34:08] Dev: Advertising being first and foremost... the other tasks, less so.
[13:36:56] Dev: The ironic thing is that I've worked to design the project that I'd want to participate in, not administrate.
[13:37:36] Temporal: heh
[13:42:55] Dev: Actually, maybe that's a problem too. I've been too careful to act as administrator and haven't participated as much as I should.
[13:43:13] Dev: Recently, I've just been firing off the odd music submission here and there.
[13:43:31] Temporal: being the administrator doesn't mean you shouldn't contribute
[13:43:49] Dev: You're right. And for some reason I've been thinking that it does.
[13:43:59] Temporal: I fully expect us to be the two largest contributors, by far
[13:44:05] Temporal: as we are already
[13:44:46] Dev: Or maybe it's that I think my contributions should be limited to the big over-arcing, structural ones. Like outlining the story and giving the development process a general form.
[13:45:00] Dev: Or creating the literal foundation of the project, in your case.
[13:45:34] Temporal: I don't think so
[13:46:08] Dev: Well, I agree. It's not helpful to think like that.
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[13:47:13] Temporal: ...
[13:47:29] Dev: o_O
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[13:56:06] Dev: ::cough:: So anyway.
[13:56:14] Temporal: heh
[13:56:32] Temporal: maybe I'll write up some detailed character abilities this week
[13:56:44] Dev: Yeah, I still think character abilities is a big hold-up, and that get priority.
[13:56:55] Dev: Though now that I'm looking over it, Part II doesn't seem to need as much revision as I thought.
[13:57:15] Dev: Mostly Chapter 8 and 12.
[14:07:33] Dev: So I have this daily calendar of space photos that Josie got me... I flip to the weekend and there's a picture of Io.
[14:07:57] Temporal: I asked for "io" as my computer name at Google
[14:08:22] Dev: Heh.
[14:10:16] Dev: Well ... unless you have anything else you think we should talk about, I should go shower. :P
[14:11:52] Temporal: see ya
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